(205) 967-3830, © 2021 John In The Wild | If this development strikes you as the opposite of progress, you might have spent the bulk of your life in the 20th century. Again bullet placement is more important than the caliber of the rifle or the size and the speed of the bullet – at least it is to me. My favorite 6mm bullet for deer is the Sierra .243 dia. Here are a couple of details that you should remember about 7mm-08 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor. In 38 years hunting with one, never lost but one deer. Once realizing the mistake, Remington changed the .244 name to the 6mm Remington and went with a faster twist barrel. Nighthawk Publications, Inc. 4112 Camp Horner Rd * Michael Caudill – Me too. Let’s not forget to put a good Leupold scope on it. Your email address will not be published. You don’t need anything bigger. Content theft, either printed or electronic is a federal offense. After much testing, it was determined that in the Roberts case, optimum performance came from bullets weighing 75 grains for varmints up to a maximum of 90 grains for use on deer… * Chad Crumpton – Definitely depends on the terrain you’re hurting. Winchester marketed the .243 as a deer/varmint round and went with a faster 1:9" barrel twist that would shoot 70 to 100 gr bullets. With the head start of the .243, the 6mm Remington has never caught up with the … Well, let me clarify that a little bit. Remington .244 rifles made from 1958 on can stabilize all 6mm bullets, while those made in 1955 through 1957 are limited to loads using spitzer bullets not heavier than 90 grains for best accuracy. Report. Our favorites for 6mm Remington ammo are as follows: Varmints – Hornady 58gr & 75gr V-Max, Nosler 70gr Ballistic Tip, Sierra 70gr BlitzKing. I would like to get a .25-06 that I feel would be best, small, fast caliber flat shooting. * Pat Pierce – Depending on the area – brush country (125 yards or less) a .30-30. Relevance. If you use anything larger, you’re wasting money and meat !!! Required fields are marked *. Comments (0) GW. Low recoil, plenty of knock-down power for whitetails. Reactions: stacy. TB Price: $127 (1) Trigger Block Three Pack $ 13.11 (0) Integral Scope Mount For H&R Handi-Rifle, Ultra Hunter, Sportst $ 25.28 (0) Rem Dri 35 Desiccant $ 7.20 (0) REM BRITE BORE 2OZ BOTTLE $ 3.48 … But if I just had one choice, it would be a .243. * Ron Lingford – A  .270. While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. I'll have to agree with Jake and say for me it is the best the .24 calibers have to offer in terms of effeciency and practical use and case design. Mag. As such, the initial factory ammunition … Simple, reliable and affordable. Best gun I’ve had. We asked Facebook’s deer-hunting groups this question, “In your opinion, what is the best hunting rifle – caliber and make – for taking deer and why?” Here are some of the answers from these Facebook groups. Reply. * Harry Leonard Sourwine – .243! Favorite Answer. Minuteman. * Kenny Dale Pardee – .308. Use a Different Rifle for Hunting Antelope Than for... 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If I had to choose one long gun, it would be a 12 gauge shotgun that has sights for firing rifled slugs, buckshot and bird shot like my Winchester Marine pump. Editor’s Note: This week I’m trying to answer the question everyone asks at this time of year,  “What’s the best deer rifle and bullet for me?” I’ll tell you about some of my favorite deer rifles and why. * Andrew Purcell – The .300 WSM – short bolt throw, easy to find ammo, hits like a thunderbolt, doubles as an elk gun. Oblivious. Achieve success with the long range hunting book series & matchgrade bedding products, MatchGrade Synthetic Stock Stabilizer instructions, The Practical Guide to Long Range Hunting Rifles, The Practical Guide to Bolt Action Rifle Accurizing & Maintenance, The Practical Guide to Long Range Hunting Cartridges, The Practical Guide To Long Range Shooting, .244/6mm Remington. Not one on the planet needs to be shot with anything larger than a .270 caliber. Used to have a 6mm/6.5-284 sporter that I used this bullet . * Brian Carnahan – I love my .270. Shooting wise its a very awesome cartridge for tactical matches etc etc. 6mm Remington quantity. The .260 Remington is just about perfect as a deer cartridge; there’s enough bullet for any deer that walks, yet it’s not so fast as to result in an excess of blood-shot meat. Winchester saw its .243 as a “dual purpose” cartridge, one that was equally suited to hunting deer and vermin. Remington finally saw the error of their ways and in 1963, they changed the twist from 1:12 to 1:9, which would stabilize all available 6mm bullet weights available on the market. All rights reserved. This time, the cartridge was matched with faster 1-9” twist barrels to properly stabilize the more popular hunting weight bullets. 100 or more. With Federal Premium ammunition, it delivers a 115 … In the early 1950’s, Remington engineers began research towards a 6mm cartridge suitable for varmints through to deer. Your email address will not be published. I went for ages with only a 6mm Remington. Let me know if this column helps you to decide what deer rifle is best for you or gives you new ideas on a deer-hunting rifle. They’re easy on the shoulder, allowing the shooter to accurately place his or her shots, yet have enough horsepower to dump a deer … Tack driver. Apparently Ralph created the .224 Texas Trophy Hunter (TTH) on the 6mm Remington case for those who like to hunt deer with a low-recoiling rifle, while still ensuring a clean kill with well-constructed 70- to 80-grain, .224-inch bullets; but the .224 TTH was also very much at home with lighter bullets suitable for smaller game, although it is not entirely a new idea. Plenty of knock- down and accurate little gun. Factory short magazine @ 2.83”/ 72mm, .244/6mm Remington. (6mm) 85 gr. With that new telescopic sight, I could see quickly and clearly where to aim. * Justin Lowe – I never went hunting with anything but my .300 Win Mag until I fell in love with the 6.5 Grendel 5.56 recoil with .308 ballistics. You can kill any large game in North America with it, and you can find quality ammo at most any sporting-goods store. R. rth1800 Two Star General. I want to thank all of you who responded to my question. It's suffered from a reputation of not being as accurate as 243, but mine is one of the most accurate rifles I own. 7mm-08 RemingtonSometime in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was developed and as the name suggests, people made it simply by necking down a standa… When I was a kid and had no other rifle for deer, I had several bullet failures at close range. No tracking dog needed. With my son, John, more or less laying claim to my Browning .243, I decided to try a Remington 6mm. It would reach out and touch a deer at much longer ranges than the shotgun I’d been shooting. 1. * Jeff May – It all depends on the application. I had learned from my friend, John Lanier at Bent Creek Lodge (See Day 2) that, “It’s not the size of the bullet, or the speed of the bullet that brings down the deer. The 6mm “parts” rifle used for testing included a Remington 700 action, a Wilson 24-inch (1:9) fluted stainless barrel, a McMillan Mc3 stock, and a MagPul Magazine Well Kit and Timney Trigger. Don’t track many. Very flat shooting round. The 6mm Remington is a better round, the new 6mm Creedmoor destined for greatness, but Winchester’s contribution remains iconic. Many shooters necked the BR case down, and a 6mm version ultimately became the 6mm BR Remington. * Michael Coleman – The best hunting rifle is the one you feel most comfortable with and have practiced. 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Re: 6mm experience-.243 and 6mm remington They say the 6mm rem ai has really good barrel life compared to .243 if your looking for a great hunting rifle I think a .243 is good and well played shots put deer down easily. * Wayne Graves – .308 Winchester model 88. Here's something for the 6mm Remington fans. Capt. Hardly ever have to track, even when hunting in thick brush. Sep 16, 2009 8,082 3,880. Rodney . Old Winchester bolt action weighs about 9 pounds. It’s between that and the .45 caliber Hawken. * Randy Seay – .308 Savage Stainless. Comment at john7185@gmail.com. It’s where you place that bullet that determines whether you bag the buck or not.” Of course, the day Lanier gave me those words of wisdom, I was shooting a .243. For the larger cervids like moose and elk, I think the 6.5s are on the line, or at the very least at the bottom of the scale. Shoots flat from close to far and leaves a good hole in the deer with a 130 grain Hornady SST. I wasn’t going to take a shot at more than 50 or 60 yards and would take my time before I squeezed the trigger. I love it. The slug doesn’t go far,  and it easily goes through the brush to take a deer. The 6mm Remington rifle cartridge, originally introduced in 1955 by Remington Arms Company as the.244 Remington, is based on a necked down.257 Roberts cartridge (itself a necked-down 7×57mm Mauser) using a.24/6mm bullet. When I first started hunting with my Remington 6mm, I believed, if I saw a buck, I could take him with that gun. It was requested in another thread that I post pictures of my Parker-Hale rifle, so here she is in all of her glory, a 1200 Super model in 6mm Remington. * Edd Willingham – I love my .30-06 model 700 Remington. In thick cover, I prefer my Ruger .44 Magnum Carbine. Custom rifle, magazine 3.300”/84mm plus, Suggested sight settings and bullet paths. 6mm Remington Load Data; 243 Win Super Short Magnum (WSSM) Load Data; 240 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 250-3000 Savage Load Data; 257 Roberts Load Data; 257 Roberts Ackley Improved Load Data; 25 Winchester Super Short Magnum Load Data; 25-06 Remington Load Data; 257 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 6.5 Grendel Load Data ; 6.5 Creedmoor Load Data; 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser Load Data; 260 Remington … However, remember, this is a look at the various rifles preferred by hunters across the country, who hunt different kinds of terrain. * Jeff Fields – I’m really starting to like my 6.5 Creedmoor. Ultimately fell to the 243 Winchester I can shoot up to 1,000 yards with it. In the South, most of the shots we get will be less than 100 yards. That was the era of increasing muzzle velocity. Having settled on the .257 Roberts case as the base for their design, the project members focused on suitable bullet weights. Product Types [+] Handguns (83) [+] Long Guns (848) [+] Muzzleloaders (1) ... Remington Accessories 17887 Versa Max 12GA Shotgun Stock/Forend $ 134.00. Gotta be able to hit stuff at 100 yards before trying to go for 500-yard shots. Of course, it has to held by a shooter and have a good placement !!! Let’s look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. Answer Save. * Jeff Waddell – I love my .308. Good knockdown power and excellent range. Can take most large North American game any day of the week. Can’t beat it. Personally I prefer a .30-06 left-handed, bolt-action rifle. Designed by Themnific. Wish I had it in a short mag, but I have used a .243, a .22-  .250, and a .308. But I would much rather be hunting with my Mathews Chill-X. Much of its popularity can be attributed to Winchester’s wise choice of 1-in-10-inch rifling in introductory rifles. For a free download on how to make jerky, visit johninthewild.com/free-books. The 6mm Showdown. A 6mm may not be the ideal deer caliber, but it’s certainly adequate out to distances that 98 percent of all deer are harvested. i still need to try out some 90's but what would be the lightest bullet i could go for hogs and deer? In most woods that I was hunting in at that time, I couldn’t see more than 60 yards, perhaps because in those days clear-cutting timber wasn’t the standard timbering practice. I’ve also included information from the readers of numerous deer-hunting Facebook groups who’ve answered this question for me. The .25-06 Remington was introduced in 1969 for deer-sized game and has a .30-06 case necked down to .257 caliber. This made sense. The 243 Win was so far ahead in sales and public perception that the 6mm Rem was all but forgotten about. * Ryan Hamm – A .308 – since it’s a short action. The heaviest bullet factory loaded for the caliber, the 105 grain Speer spitzer (with a BC of .443 and a SD … I’ve been killing whitetail bucks since 1965 with this rifle. SKU: N/A Category: Custom Ammunition. * Zach Wilmoth – I use a 12 gauge slug. Even though the .243 had an 8-year head start, the 6mm Rem. Add to cart. Awesome knockdown power. Since they realized that the damage had already been done to the .244 Remington, they changed its name at that time to the 6mm Remington. Like my 700 in .320-06 now. * Corey Crenshaw – Depends on law. PX Member. * Jacob Corbitt – .30-30 Winchester lever action with iron sights, cause nothing is better. * Buck Buchanan – When my dad was a kid, he quit school in the fifth grade, grabbed a few supplies and lived off the land. Copyright (c) John E. Phillips, 2014-2015. According to my research, the rifle was made in the Birmingham, England factory sometime in the '60s-'70s, but I'm unsure of the year. 11 Answers. To learn more about deer hunting, go to for John E. Phillips’ Kindle, Create Space and Audible books at johninthewild.com/books/#deer and to www.barnesandnoble.com for Nook books. "Remington 6mm" For Sale More Filters . Browning X-bolt since it’s a short bolt throw. * Dustin Warnke – Well, I use a .270. 9 years ago. I shoot a Remington 700 6mm bolt action rifle and talk a bit about the history of the round.. HPBT GameKing #1530 . Yes, the 7mm-08 Remington is A GOOD CHOICE for whitetail deer hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. With that new telescopic sight, I could see quickly and clearly where to aim. Coyotes might pop on impact. For more open country (150 to 400 yards), a .25-06. You may be surprised at some of the exotic guns mentioned, but also will find interesting the outdoorsmen who have hunted with the same guns their entire lives. Thanks again for your help. Drops deer in their tracks, no blood trails, and no losing the deer. The better the optics – the better the shooter. Works well for me. * Blake Collins – .30-30 kills more deer than any rifle will ever see. Hunting  Talk About It #Huntingtalkaboutit: * Jason E Elam – Caliber for me is .308. I took the biggest Montana whitetail that I’ve ever taken with that little rifle, and the buck weighed just a smidge over 300 pounds. * Wesley Watring – 7mm rem. L. to R. are 243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, 240 Weatherby Magnum. i was thinking 100 grain Partition but my rifle doesn't particularly shoot 100's great (1.1'' at 100yds) but the 80's shoot like .2". Have been … I kinda figure the twist rates were only good for about .40 B/C's. I’m sorry that space didn’t allow me to use everyone’s comments. * Dale Steinecke – Love my TC Encore .50 Cal. He killed lots of game to feed himself, including deer with well-placed shots. Muzzleloader.  * Greg Davis:  .30-06. In Ohio, we can’t use regular rifles, but we can use straight wall cartridge rifles, so then it would hard to beat a .444 Marlin round, a CVA Scout V2 in .444 Marlin, but I would say a good all-around caliber is a .243. My cousin has a 6mm Rem and has put down some big bodied mulies with his. I love it. In the 1970s, Remington experimented with a .308-sized case that was about 1.5 inches long and had a small primer pocket (like the PPCs). * Dale Martin – Shot more deer with a Remington 742 auto in .30-06. * Erick Rayfield – .25-06 – has less recoil and is flat shooting, in Thompson Center Pro Hunter. However, got to be a real man to handle the kick. The popular perception was that, with a .243 Win., you had two rifles in one. ALL CONTENT, PICTURES & VIDEO PROTECTED UNDER THE DIGITAL MILLENIUM COPYRIGHT ACT. That gun has never let me down. I took a buck, and he fell in the same tracks where he’d been standing. After sighting-in my Remington 6mm, it became my new favorite gun. Jan 6, 2014; Add bookmark #13 OP would go with the heavier bullets for deer. You can shoot 55 grain for coyotes and shoot over 100 grain for deer, wide range weapon. I can’t count how many deer it has taken (15 last 4years alone). I’ve used everything from a .223 to a .45-70 and laid deer down with one shot. Shoot for the Deer’s Neck Not His Shoulder. His nick name was Tarpaulin, because his bedroll was rolled into a tarp and carried with a rope slung across his shoulder. It’s nothing more than the.308 Winchester necked to.243/6mm caliber. Someone may mention your favorite rifle, as well as others you don’t like. * RichCecelia Rowley:  I personally prefer the 7mm-.08 in a lightweight bolt action. But I really like head or neck shots, and yes, I have head shot some large bucks (27+ spread). 08/30/2017 Powered by Wordpress. Factory loads in 6mm call for an 80 grain bullet at 3,470 fps, and a 100 grain bullet at 3,100 fps. * Nate Zimmerman – Used same .308 since I was 15. I have 3 different guns in .308 that I will take,  depending on the farm. So, I made the brag, “If I see a buck with this gun, I can take him.” However, after completely missing five consecutive bucks with my 6mm, I decided that I needed to hunt with that Remington 6mm like I hunted with my 2-3/4 inch 12 gauge. I seriously doubt the remington will stabalize the 95 grain VLD. In 1963, Remington corrected this problem by making rifles with a 1-in-9 twist and reintroduced the cartridge as the 6mm Rem. Longest range shot I’ve actually taken on a live deer though was a little over 600. Winchester model 70 using Winchester ballistic silver tips. Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for … Description Additional information Reviews (0) Description. I had a Remington in 6mm about 15 years ago, plus a couple Rugers in the same caliber with the same twist rate. Plenty of power and big enough to hunt any game in North America. When I first started hunting with my Remington 6mm, I believed, if I saw a buck, I could take him with that gun. It’s no secret that the 6mm cartridges have a huge following; after all, they’re just about the best at doing double-duty on deer-sized game and varmints/predators. 6mm Remington on Mule Deer what would be the ideal bullet (weight and manufacturer) for a Mule Deer and Pigs with a 6mm remington? Vestavia Hills, AL 35243 If I had to choose one big game rifle, it would be in .30-06. Remington has a history of major … They wouldn't do Berger 88 grain LD's at all, but would all do regular 90 grain bullets. I like my .270 WBY Magnum for hunting in expansive food plots in Alabama and the Midwest.
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