Hodgdon offers more than a dozen different propellants for reloading 223/5.56 ammo. New. Well, if a powder company is basically going to endorse at home load development of this type….we're game. Don't stick a bullet by reducing loads too far. New. 2. VIEW PRODUCT. Hodgdon Trail Boss is known for its popularity throughout the Single Action Shooting Society. For that purpose, I strongly recommend the use of a Lee Factory Crimp Die (p/n 90931), or any similar die from Redding or RCBS. Red_barron1976. Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Gave me the remaining can of Trail Boss, as well. Burn rates range from IMR 4198 (fastest) to CFE 223 (slowest). I got … I bumped that charge up to 13.5 grains for 150- and 165-grain bullets and was surprised when velocities were 200 to 300 fps faster than those reported by Hodgdon. More later. JFE. Velocity spread was over 100 fps for each loading and accuracy about the same as the Trail Boss. I just sub jacketed bullets in the cast bullet loads and stay away from max loads. Just doesnt sound right. VIEW PRODUCT. Powder left in the reloader's powder measure hoppers for extended periods, overnight or several days, should be avoided. Don't, under any circumstances, compress it. But IMR (Hodgdon) says you can fill the case with trail boss, leaving room for bullet seating, and that's the Maximum load. New. Reduced Recoil Shot Shell Loads. The small charges of very fast pistol or shotgun powders traditionally used for reduced loads normally weigh from 6 grains in a standard case to 25 grains in a magnum. I have found Trail Boss works better in larger rifle cases. All data in this caliber is subsonic but is not normally tagged with the name subsonic. This load will be safe in pretty much any caliber according to the info on their website. Last edited by Blair; 01-01-2019 at 03:57 PM. Find what you need in four easy steps. PRODUCT RECALL. New. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. New. Click "Get Data" to view results. Wis-Harpo Member. Trail Boss is a little slow for light loads. Taking a look at one of my favorite powders, IMR Trail Boss. VIEW PRODUCT. Trail Boss loads for 45-70? But under no circumstances should Trail Boss be compressed. 01-01-2019, 04:37 PM #4. By Roger Rapid, February 12, 2015 in SASS Wire. (ft/s) PRESSURE GRS. That can be dangerous. Smokeless Powder; Muzzle Loading Powder; Branded Merchandise; Resources. PRODUCT RECALL. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. Trail Boss represents a major breakthrough in assembling reduced loads because it does away with the necessity for using a filler between the reduced powder charge and the base of the bullet. It is primarily a pistol powder, but can also be used for pistol cartridges chambered in rifles. The bad thing about those powders is the loads are position sensitive. Joined: May 25, 2014 Messages: 177 Location: Texas. VEL. Trail boss 38 Special 110gr and 158gr Keith bullets from Arsenal Molds and Lee Molds. Stay up on the latest. It announced a new powder named Trail Boss, intended specifically for reloading cowboy action loads. New. I've never reloaded with Trailboss, but I have reloaded .223 with about 5 … According to IMR, Trail Boss is a new technology smokeless powder developed exclusively for use with lead bullets at low velocity. Meaning that you typically need to tilt the rifle back to ensure that the powder is againist the primer. * TRAIL BOSS: This is a very bulky powder originally for cowboy shooting, but it has been found it works pretty darn good in all kinds of reduced velocity loads for rifles, in plain or jacketed bullets. They gotta be conservative for the older guns, but a blackhawk should be able to digest these loads easily. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Not all "subsonic" loads are noted as such in the data, because the cartridge is not capable of producing supersonic velocity. IMR ENDURON 4166. I used the small powder measure on my square deal, but I was shooting light charges and 200g bullets. I read IMR's method of finding the correct charge range and it works out to about the same data I found in the load books. IIRC, the small powder measure on the Square Deal was limited to about 5-6 grains of Trail Boss. In 9mm, most loading data are supersonic. Warnings; Safety Data Sheets; Reference Data ; Hodgdon Tools; Reloading Data Center; Dealers. ALL THE LOAD DATA YOU’LL EVER NEED ALL IN ONE PLACE! VIEW RECALL. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. I recently inherited a Magnum Research BFR revolver in 45/70 being 65 and not needing to shoot full power loads I contacted Hodgdon and they steered me to Trail Boss. Lead Free Bullet Data. YMMV, and it is still a good idea to start at the 70% level. Trail Boss Reduced Rifle Load. VISIT THE RDC. I am using a Lightning 300 grain LRNFP-Cowboy bullet on top of 14.9grs. I had some 39 grain loads with me but the top 38.5 shot was just over 2200 fps. I found the load to be extremely accurate and pleasant in the pistol. Walkalong, Sep 8, 2016 #8. Territorial Governors; 235 830 posts; Gender: Male; Location: Atascadero, CA; Interests: CAS, gunsmithing, stockmaking, bluegrass music, luthierie; SASS# 96080; Pozo River Vigilance Committee … Roger Rapid 235 Posted February 12, 2015. Its interesting to read of the wide variety of experiences with Trailboss. (ft/s) PRESSURE 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Trail Boss .224" 2.200" 4.0 1,074 N/A 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Tite Group .224" 2.200" 3.1 1,064 4,000 CUP 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Clays .224" 2.200" 3.2 1,060 … It's a Cimmaron Arms 1873 Peacemaker clone. Like I said 10.5gr of Trail boss works in the bolt and groups about 1.2moa at 100yds. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Boolit Man Join Date Sep 2010 Location NSW, Australia Posts 90. Above I have printed some of my early test. Powder Storage in Reloader Hoppers. 02-20-2012, 04:04 AM #11. brnomauser. You'll get in the neighborhood of 1000 to 1200 FPS and it will be very light for the caliber. Trail Boss works ok for me in 30-30 with Berry's 150 grain plated bullet. I have a number of projects I have marked for trail boss - for reduced loads. While i have tried other powders and they do the same job the Trail Boss loads seem to be easier to shoot more when at the range. Reduced Recoil Shot Shell Loads. I have tried Trail Boss for reduced loads in things like .35 Remington and .458 Win Mag. The max charge just about fills the case without being compressed. VIEW PRODUCT. I noticed on the Hodgdon web site a maximum load for .223 with Trail Boss is 4.0. Most other powder loads are north of 15 grains! Well tried 13grs Trail Boss in my Lee Enfield and it shot about the same 1-1/2" plus or minus groups at 50yrs as the 10 grs of unique and 13 grs of Red Dot. I have been one of these guys that uses IMR 4895 for most milsurps. Roger Rapid. 110 gr gnat farts and 158gr butterfly farts. And, while I load a lot of 500 Magnums with Lil Gun powder for the tourists and lookers on (who want the full effect), most of my 500 S&W Magnum cast loads are loaded with Trail Boss. Part 4 in the series of .30-30 casting and load development. VIEW RECALL. After all, the US sold it to everyone during Lend Lease and I like to believe it is similar to period loads and components. It does, however, list a velocity of 1,061 fps for Nosler 150-grain Bal-listic Tips with 13.3 grains of Trail Boss from the .30-06. IMR ENDURON ® 4451. 3.3 was barely over half. of Trail Boss and it is very accurate and recoil is not bad at all and manageable. Lyman shows load data for 44, 55 and 60 grain bullets in 223. VEL. Trail Boss loads for 45-70? VIEW PRODUCT. 12-18-2018, 08:35 PM #12. My dad gave me my first .45 Colt a couple of years ago. Trail Boss loads for rifle cartridges with a case larger than the .30-06. IMR ENDURON ® 4955. I then bought a Ruger BH Bisley in .45 Colt and the load … In the 2007 Hodgdon Annual Manual, he penned an article entitled, "Trail Boss- It's Not Just for Cowboy Action Shooting". Trail Boss 2.2 642fps 11,300 CUP 2.5 707fps 15,300 CUP 2.5gr barely fills the case up 1/3. Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. Subsonic loads refer to those whose velocity is less than the speed of sound. Email * Products. But with a 255g bullet, it doesn't sound like you are trying for the lightest loads. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Boolit Buddy Join Date Aug 2006 Location Melbourne, Australia Posts 331. Velocities are 1700-2400 range with pistol powders like Unique, 2400, 4227 and my favorite, Accurate #9. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. VIEW … I have used Accurate 5744 in my Enfield (28gr max with a 174gr bullet) which works pretty well, check Western Powders Ramshot to see if they have a loading for this powder and 8mm Mauser. With regards to reduced loads, I'm not familiar with using Trail Boss but I do know that it is a pretty bulky powder. My 93 year old buddy from maine who comes for a visit in the Winter almost giggles like a little girl shooting the massive gun with the light Trail Boss loads. Several Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester powders are appropriate for full-power 223 Rem. GRS. Even a "maximum Trail Boss" load will be pretty mild compared to other powders. Thanks for the advice! He gave me a box of 100 .45 Colt rounds loaded with .455 250gr lead boolits pushed with 6.0gr of Trail Boss. Lead Free Bullet Data. powered by Cheerios! I made a load ramp starting at 2.5 and going up .2 until I got to 3.3 last night. IMR ENDURON ® 4955. Really! There are only two things to worry about with Trail Boss: 1. IMR ENDURON 7977. Trail Boss goes nuts, and becomes completely unpredictable, when compressed. I decided that anything less than a 100% fill with no compression was a waste of time. Thats a HUGE spread.... lezmark, Mar 6, 2015 #1. kdunn Member. Trail Boss works well, follow the references already mentioned. An example is .32 S&W. Trail boss being a bulky powder pretty much fills a 308 case at 13gr's of powder. handloads, and faster-burning powders like HP38 and Trail Boss can be used for low-velocity specialty loads. Thanks for the additional responses. IMR ENDURON 4955. 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